Saturday, October 11, 2008
Survivor Gabon: 1704
Ah another shakeup from the producers of Survivor. Picking teams again really was the highlight of this episode. After their first shot at picking teams, would the players really have learned anything? Sometimes you do get a second chance.
Let's just get into the ranking and picking of the teams shall we?
Here's how the tribes ranked their own teams from top to bottom:
Fang: Matty, Dan, Randy, Crystal, Ken, GC, Susie
Kota: Marcus, Ace, Bob, Charlie, Jacquie, Corinne, Sugar, Kelly
Here's how I would have ranked the tribes:
Fang: Matty, Crystal, Randy, Dan, Ken, Susie, GC
Kota: Marcus, Bob, Jacquie, Corinne, Ace, Charlie, Kelly, Sugar
Clearly Marcus and Matty are top of the heap. I think that Crystal is a real competitor and she's going to get stronger as the season goes on. Is Randy the only one on Fang who realizes they'll run out of rice? Last episode when they said they threw some away on the first days that was awful. GC really sucks at this show. He's terrible with people and doesn't even try in the challenges. At the beginning I was for him just because he was named GC. He should be renamed Raman, a more useless analytical technique.
Bob is definitely a hard worker and I think he should be right up there after Marcus. It's hard to tell since he's not a physical threat though. Jacquie and Corinne both seem pretty solid. I moved Ace down since he's such a polarizing figure and hadn't been quite as physical in the past.
They got back down to picking teams. Here's how I thought they would have picked them. It's important to note here that I did not allow for the players to discuss with each other in my decisions, they would have been independent.
Kota: Marcus, Dan, Jacquie, Randy, Corinne, Ken, Bob
Fang: Matty, Ace, Crystal, Charlie, GC, Kelly, Susie
Here's the actual order:
Kota: Marcus, Dan, Charlie, Randy, Corinne, Susie, Bob
Fang: Matty, Ace, Crystal, Jacquie, Ken, Kelly, GC
I was actually pretty close. The most striking thing here is that Bob slides so far down. I think the main reason for this is that you are always being picked by someone from the opposite team and so they just see him in challenges where he's not at his best. They haven't seen how hard he works around the camp. I'm surprised that no one stepped up from the original Kota tribe to say that he was necessary. I think that Ken made perhaps the best decision when he chose Kelly. The biggest worry is that the other tribe is very strong. Since Ace told him not to pick Kelly, that was a great selection since they probably don't get along. Puts Ken in a position to pick sides and come out on top.
Sugar is definitely one of the weaker players and so she ends up at Exile again. Two things, why is is still called Exile Island since it's not an island and how easy was it to find that damned idol last time? What a waste. Should definitely be a little tougher. Lucky Dan was an idiot before and hardly made a dent. Good to see Sugar choose comfort. Could overthink that and wonder if they just hid another idol out there. They seem to be giving them away for free now
Immunity Challenge
At the challenge Marcus was really the star of the show. It's like he was born to do that. I wonder how Kelly from Season 1 would have done as a river guide. Those rafts didn't seem to be super-easy to control. Randy was really cherry picking but did end up with three goals. Since Marcus was so good that didn't seem like a bad move. I guess it would have been too complicated to incorporate an offsides rule. So many of the people were completely useless: Crystal, Kelly, Ken (although only Ken got called out). I'm not sure GC was even in that challenge. After Randy's third goal I was hoping that Probst would throw his hat into the water - didn't happen.
Strategy Analysis
After Fang was destroyed they had to vote someone out. It's amazing but the power bloc was GC, Crystal, and Ken who are able to pick up Kelly. They can't have a whole lot of faith in her. When GC says you have a bad attitude you know you're in trouble. This alliance is not really in a good place. If they vote Kelly out they lose the numbers, but if they keep Kelly they'll continue to underperform at the challenges. It was nice to see Jacquie fighting to stay around and actually tell people why she wants and deserves to stay. At the same time at Tribal I don't know that it was a good idea for Kelly to call out Crystal and Kenny for the challenge when she's supposedly in their alliance.
My Prediction: Kelly. I thought they'd be swayed by wanting to win and get rid of Kelly who was negative and not physically as useful. (0/1)
Spell Check: I am always amazed at how bad the Survivors are at spelling each others names and want to keep a running tally of right vs. wrong
Right: 1 (Kelly)
Wrong: 6 (Kelli, Jackie 4, Jacky)
Season Avg: 0.143
Quick hit thoughts:
Let's just get into the ranking and picking of the teams shall we?
Here's how the tribes ranked their own teams from top to bottom:
Fang: Matty, Dan, Randy, Crystal, Ken, GC, Susie
Kota: Marcus, Ace, Bob, Charlie, Jacquie, Corinne, Sugar, Kelly
Here's how I would have ranked the tribes:
Fang: Matty, Crystal, Randy, Dan, Ken, Susie, GC
Kota: Marcus, Bob, Jacquie, Corinne, Ace, Charlie, Kelly, Sugar
Clearly Marcus and Matty are top of the heap. I think that Crystal is a real competitor and she's going to get stronger as the season goes on. Is Randy the only one on Fang who realizes they'll run out of rice? Last episode when they said they threw some away on the first days that was awful. GC really sucks at this show. He's terrible with people and doesn't even try in the challenges. At the beginning I was for him just because he was named GC. He should be renamed Raman, a more useless analytical technique.
Bob is definitely a hard worker and I think he should be right up there after Marcus. It's hard to tell since he's not a physical threat though. Jacquie and Corinne both seem pretty solid. I moved Ace down since he's such a polarizing figure and hadn't been quite as physical in the past.
They got back down to picking teams. Here's how I thought they would have picked them. It's important to note here that I did not allow for the players to discuss with each other in my decisions, they would have been independent.
Kota: Marcus, Dan, Jacquie, Randy, Corinne, Ken, Bob
Fang: Matty, Ace, Crystal, Charlie, GC, Kelly, Susie
Here's the actual order:
Kota: Marcus, Dan, Charlie, Randy, Corinne, Susie, Bob
Fang: Matty, Ace, Crystal, Jacquie, Ken, Kelly, GC
I was actually pretty close. The most striking thing here is that Bob slides so far down. I think the main reason for this is that you are always being picked by someone from the opposite team and so they just see him in challenges where he's not at his best. They haven't seen how hard he works around the camp. I'm surprised that no one stepped up from the original Kota tribe to say that he was necessary. I think that Ken made perhaps the best decision when he chose Kelly. The biggest worry is that the other tribe is very strong. Since Ace told him not to pick Kelly, that was a great selection since they probably don't get along. Puts Ken in a position to pick sides and come out on top.
Sugar is definitely one of the weaker players and so she ends up at Exile again. Two things, why is is still called Exile Island since it's not an island and how easy was it to find that damned idol last time? What a waste. Should definitely be a little tougher. Lucky Dan was an idiot before and hardly made a dent. Good to see Sugar choose comfort. Could overthink that and wonder if they just hid another idol out there. They seem to be giving them away for free now
Immunity Challenge
At the challenge Marcus was really the star of the show. It's like he was born to do that. I wonder how Kelly from Season 1 would have done as a river guide. Those rafts didn't seem to be super-easy to control. Randy was really cherry picking but did end up with three goals. Since Marcus was so good that didn't seem like a bad move. I guess it would have been too complicated to incorporate an offsides rule. So many of the people were completely useless: Crystal, Kelly, Ken (although only Ken got called out). I'm not sure GC was even in that challenge. After Randy's third goal I was hoping that Probst would throw his hat into the water - didn't happen.
Strategy Analysis
After Fang was destroyed they had to vote someone out. It's amazing but the power bloc was GC, Crystal, and Ken who are able to pick up Kelly. They can't have a whole lot of faith in her. When GC says you have a bad attitude you know you're in trouble. This alliance is not really in a good place. If they vote Kelly out they lose the numbers, but if they keep Kelly they'll continue to underperform at the challenges. It was nice to see Jacquie fighting to stay around and actually tell people why she wants and deserves to stay. At the same time at Tribal I don't know that it was a good idea for Kelly to call out Crystal and Kenny for the challenge when she's supposedly in their alliance.
My Prediction: Kelly. I thought they'd be swayed by wanting to win and get rid of Kelly who was negative and not physically as useful. (0/1)
Spell Check: I am always amazed at how bad the Survivors are at spelling each others names and want to keep a running tally of right vs. wrong
Right: 1 (Kelly)
Wrong: 6 (Kelli, Jackie 4, Jacky)
Season Avg: 0.143
Quick hit thoughts:
- Charlie really does love Marcus
- GC is totally negative and a quitter
- Dan is not smart. When they get the gear for the challenge he asked "Is that a ball? Ohhh"
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Some random thoughts:
- Crystal seems like she should be a physical force, but I think she's actually pretty terrible at challenges that don't involve sprinting and/or brute strength. She's the exact opposite of someone like Ozzy - she's good at only one thing and atrocious at all others.
- People are dumb for not picking or recommending Bob. If you're Fang and you see (unexpectedly) that he's ranked so high, you have to ignore your instincts that he's a weak player and trust the information Kota's giving you about his strength. That said, I still find it hard to believe that a Physics teacher missed the math question in Episode 2.
- I can't give Ken as much credit as Andy did for picking Kelli. Yes, good strategic move, but I'm pretty sure Ken actually picked her only because she's hot. Seriously, how many times did he mention that she's hot?
- Biggest surprise for me in Episode 3? Finding out that Ace not only sleeps with Sugar, but also Jacquie. I didn't see that interaction at all.
- GC is a quitter. He sucks and cannot be saved.
- Randy is a whiner who enjoys whining about how everyone else whines. But at least in the right atmosphere (i.e. with a strong leader that he respects, perhaps Marcus?), I think Randy could be a valuable player.
- Charlie wants to sex Marcus. Marcus is totally OK with using him for that.
- Sugar wants to sex Ace. She couldn't wait to freakin' tell him about the idol!
- I also think Dan is dumb. He is one of those people who seem smart but really are quite dumb.
- After much evaluation, I have decided that Corinne is the hottest.
- Crystal seems like she should be a physical force, but I think she's actually pretty terrible at challenges that don't involve sprinting and/or brute strength. She's the exact opposite of someone like Ozzy - she's good at only one thing and atrocious at all others.
- People are dumb for not picking or recommending Bob. If you're Fang and you see (unexpectedly) that he's ranked so high, you have to ignore your instincts that he's a weak player and trust the information Kota's giving you about his strength. That said, I still find it hard to believe that a Physics teacher missed the math question in Episode 2.
- I can't give Ken as much credit as Andy did for picking Kelli. Yes, good strategic move, but I'm pretty sure Ken actually picked her only because she's hot. Seriously, how many times did he mention that she's hot?
- Biggest surprise for me in Episode 3? Finding out that Ace not only sleeps with Sugar, but also Jacquie. I didn't see that interaction at all.
- GC is a quitter. He sucks and cannot be saved.
- Randy is a whiner who enjoys whining about how everyone else whines. But at least in the right atmosphere (i.e. with a strong leader that he respects, perhaps Marcus?), I think Randy could be a valuable player.
- Charlie wants to sex Marcus. Marcus is totally OK with using him for that.
- Sugar wants to sex Ace. She couldn't wait to freakin' tell him about the idol!
- I also think Dan is dumb. He is one of those people who seem smart but really are quite dumb.
- After much evaluation, I have decided that Corinne is the hottest.
About Bob - did you look at that math question? I tried to freeze frame on it and it seemed challenging, sort of a trial and error method would have to work.
Glad to see that GC is as popular with you as with me.
Corinne is the hottest? I kind of think that right now it's Kelly, but I was digging Paloma when she was on earlier.
Glad to see that GC is as popular with you as with me.
Corinne is the hottest? I kind of think that right now it's Kelly, but I was digging Paloma when she was on earlier.
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